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Leaders are too timid and torn to fight, says Burns

NUS’ outgoing leader tells John Morgan that v‑cs and Russell Group must press the sector’s case to government

Published on
June 20, 2013
Last updated
May 27, 2015

No political future: Liam Burns is not heading for a career in politics but rather one in the third sector with the Scout Association

Higher education’s leaders are ā€œtoo scared of their own shadowā€ and too disunited to challenge the government, while the Russell Group should stop being ā€œa shady organisationā€ and act in the wider interests of the sector, according to the outgoing president of the National Union of Students.

Looking back on a two-year term of office that ends on 28Ā June, after which he will become head of public affairs at the Scout Association (where former NUS chief executive Matt Hyde also moved earlier this year), Liam Burns lamented that ā€œthe only thing the sector can unite around is ring-fencing science fundingā€.

On higher education cuts, the Heriot-Watt University physics graduate told 51³Ō¹Ļ: ā€œYou just think the political potency of the sector could turn round and say [to the government]: ā€˜This is a ridiculous course of action and you should just be investing more public cash.ā€™ā€

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He noted how a key sector body, Ucas, had quietly withheld institutional data on applications this year for fear that students would desert universities seen as unpopular.

Although Mr Burns was initially angry that students were being denied information, he came to sympathise with Ucas’ attempt to mitigate the effects of competition between universities. ā€œThat move by Ucas was trying to subvert the [government’s] system,ā€ he said. ā€œMy frustration is that people are always too scared of their own shadow to say that.ā€

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Mr Burns continued: ā€œI wonder if at some point…the Russell Group stops being this shady, behind-the-scenes organisation and starts having aĀ role more in talking about…the good of the wider sector.ā€

There is now a ā€œcritical mass of vice-chancellors in that group that could start saying much more progressive thingsā€, Mr Burns said, citing Russell Group vice-chancellors such as Keith Burnett (of the University of Sheffield), Craig Calhoun (London School of Economics) and Sir Alan Langlands, who is soon to take over at the University of Leeds.

Regarding his term, MrĀ Burns cited as highlights the NUS’ legal intervention to help London Metropolitan University’s international students, the saving of Care to Learn – a government scheme to help teenage parents with childcare costs while they study – and a campaign for universities to pay the Living Wage, which has achieved its aim on 50 campuses.

No consumer association

He also said it was important that the NUS had rejected ā€œgoing down a consumerist routeā€ in its representation of students. That had given the Higher Education Funding Council for England ā€œthe roomā€ to sidestep ā€œwhat they were meant to do in the White Paper and become the consumer interest championā€.

Despite ardent opposition to David Willetts’ market vision, MrĀ Burns admitted to some admiration for the universities and science minister. He recalled discussions about switching emphasis in the National Scholarship Programme from tuition fee waivers, which arguably help the Treasury more than students, to money-in-your-pocket bursaries.

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There was ā€œalmost a cheeky grinā€ on the minister’s face during the talks, ā€œhim knowing that the Treasury would hate the idea of trying to reduce fee waivers. He did go for that, and the NSP allows that to happen more now,ā€ Mr Burns said, although he believes that the shift has not gone far enough.

On higher education funding, he still favours a graduate tax, which he sees as a way for the richest graduates – who have benefited most from higher education – to put back into the system via funding. ā€œDebt would no longer be [an issue], you would have contributions coming back from the richest…the sector could have central planning, public money could be there in that system.ā€

Unlike many of his predecessors as NUS president, he will not pursue a career in Labour politics. ā€œI’ve said it since the start: I’ve no interest in being an MP or doing elected politics,ā€ said Mr Burns, who will be succeeded as president by Toni Pearce, the current vice-president for further education.

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Instead, looking to his Scouts role, he defined his political interest as being in third-sector organisations and ā€œcreating agency where it doesn’t existā€, in ensuring that people are able to wield influence even though they are ā€œnot the people who would usually influenceā€.

john.morgan@tsleducation.com

On topic: Liam Burns on Willetts, Hefce and the value of campaigning

On the coalition’s vision of ā€œstudents at the heart of the systemā€
ā€œThe thing that David [Willetts] should be most disappointed about [is that] for all his rhetoric…students have not a bit of additional power three years on…It’s the [funding] voucher that has the influence, not the student. For a sector that prides itself and justifies itself on creating active citizens, I think that’s aĀ bit sad.ā€

On the Higher Education Funding Council for England
ā€œI’m very worried about who the next Hefce chief exec is…If I were [Willetts] and wanted to be aĀ bit more hawkish about pushing market behaviours, then IĀ would have aĀ very deep interest in what background [the successful candidate] came from.ā€

On NUS intervention in the London Met court case
ā€œThat was a game changer from the perspective of students…Moments like that show why the NUS is aĀ campaigning organisation that can do things others can’tĀ do.ā€

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